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\"Alfa<\/a><\/p>\n

If you’re in the market for a super-saloon, should you be going Italian?<\/p>\n

\n

You jammy sod. Those three words flashed up on my phone from a friend barely five minutes after I posted an image to Instagram. Out of context, this would perhaps seem weird. But the picture in question was of this sumptuous Etna Red Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio<\/a>.<\/p>\n

My friend is a big Alfa Romeo<\/a> fan \u2013 and he says it how it is. And I guess that some of you may have thoughts similar to my friend’s. And you\u2019re right because the \u00a378,195 Giulia QV is quite the car: 513bhp and rear-wheel drive but with seating for five and a good-sized boot.<\/p>\n

I am conscious about coming across as smug in these reports, though, so I\u2019ll be borrowing a bit of humility from my favourite American billionaire.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m a big admirer of Warren Buffett. The 94-year-old is at the time of writing the world\u2019s sixth-richest person and CEO of a huge multinational conglomerate called Berkshire Hathaway. He doesn\u2019t seem the type of person you\u2019d particularly like to go to dinner with \u2013 until you read his letters to his shareholders. He\u2019s wonderfully dry, funny, and self-effacing.<\/p>\n

In the 1980s Buffett bought a private jet and named it \u2018The Indefensible\u2019 in a letter to Berkshire Hathaway shareholders, who had essentially paid for it. I feel similar here: I promise to enjoy and drive the Alfa as if you were doing it yourself.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/p>\n

Anyway, the reason we\u2019re running one in the first place is that Alfa\u2019s sports car-baiting saloon has had an update. It receives a 10bhp boost, a straightforward mechanical limited-slip diff (rather than an e-diff), matrix LED lights, a new grille mesh, and new digital dials.<\/p>\n

Ostensibly, I\u2019m going to see if that has made a difference and how it fits in a marketplace that is moving so quickly. But I\u2019m also going to answer a few questions.<\/p>\n

The first being: do the Italians do it better? At this stage, I have yet to put mega-miles on the car. But it is very different from the offerings from AMG, RS, and M. For a start, it is nothing short of beautifully set up for our broken Great British roads.<\/p>\n

I love the way you can set the driving mode to \u2018angry\u2019 with a twist of a dial, then immediately set the dampers to soft with a button on the same dial. Both ergonomically sensible and a satisfying thing to do.<\/p>\n

I can\u2019t quite believe I\u2019m writing this, but I also need to answer the question of \u2018is the Giulia QV actually quite good value?\u2019 News has just come through that the new Audi SQ5<\/a> will cost \u00a375,000. The Audi is a bit\u00a0more practical, of course, but its V6 is 150bhp down on the Alfa\u2019s and it is a much less exciting and less exotic prospect.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/p>\n

Then we have the expense of fairly mundane EVs, on which I won\u2019t waste column inches here. The final and perhaps most intriguing subject of investigation is the engine. In my short time with the Alfa I have already fielded numerous questions from very knowledgeable industry people about the engine\u2019s origins.<\/p>\n

Alfa\u2019s engineers have described the all-aluminium unit as being \u2018inspired\u2019 by Ferrari<\/a>\u2019s 3.9-litre twin-turbo V8: both motors share a 90deg bank angle, cylinder bore and stroke measurements and a turbocharger supplier.<\/p>\n

There\u2019s also Maserati\u2019s<\/a> Nettuno V6. I\u2019ve experienced it a fair bit in our MC20 long-termer, and I think they feel and sound pretty different. But there\u2019s no denying that both also share that 90deg bank angle and the same 8000rpm limit. Just how closely related are they?<\/p>\n

But that\u2019s all food for future reports. How am I getting on with the Quad so far? Brilliantly, thank you. I\u2019ll write more about the delightful way it drives later; in the meantime, I have been dealing with a few quite Italian quirks.<\/p>\n

That new digital display behind the steering wheel is configurable and can change depending on which driving mode you\u2019re in. I like the option that\u2019s modelled on classic Alfa dials: it is truly fantastic. Like a classic Alfa, but it\u2019s all reliable, works consistently and can tell you important things, such as the fuel economy. Except there\u2019s one enormous quirk.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/p>\n

The \u2018miles to empty gauge\u2019 in the bottom left corner ticks down with a very satisfying animation. It\u2019s great to watch but is almost useless: it theatrically tells you the miles to empty is changing, but of course cars have different ways of calculating this.<\/p>\n

It goes up as well as down; and it\u2019s not like it diligently ticks down mile by mile, or every five miles. It seemingly spits out random numbers at will, with no rhyme or reason why or when.<\/p>\n

The infotainment is a bit naff, too. Yes, reader, I am a millennial. And, yes, I am complaining about the touchscreen in my 513bhp Italian super-saloon. The screen itself is fine \u2013 at 8.8in it\u2019s a good deal smaller than the Germans\u2019. But I really don\u2019t care that much.<\/p>\n

The graphics are also a bit behind the Germans in terms of cleanliness, and the UX (user experience if you\u2019re wondering) is behind the curve. Again, no biggie for me. But what has annoyed me so far is the lack of wireless Apple CarPlay.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s a minor foible, but the whole plugging in, taking it out, making the wire and phone fit in the box situated in the armrest is a tad annoying. Maybe it will irritate me less over time.<\/p>\n

Update 2<\/h2>\n

Road test editor Matt Saunders wrote a brilliant piece about Polestar’s head of chassis development, Joakim Rydholm<\/a>, in which he made a point about not allowing national stereotypes to get in the way of fair judgement. Anyway, my Alfa Romeo has broken down a bit.<\/p>\n

With the benefit of hindsight, I think this tale begins in Wales. I had just crossed over the border when an unwanted bong nudged my attention. “Check Airbag ” and “SOS Call Error” messages hung around like turds in a pool, but after around 10 minutes the warnings disappeared and I was left alone with my thoughts, the Alfa’s V6 and the sheep.<\/p>\n

To be perfectly honest, when I got back to London, I forgot about the warning bongs and promptly went on holiday. I lent the car to my colleague Jack Warrick and he had the same issues.<\/p>\n

He then lent it to Classic & Sports Car’s Aaron McKay, who had some real issues. He needed some wheels to get\u00a0him to his grandad’s 80th birthday bash over in Wales, and while it whisked him along the M4 fine, getting home wasn’t so easy.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/p>\n

On the Saturday, a burst of well-known warning lights and bongs alerted him to some mysterious malady. It was still upset on the Sunday morning when some unknown turmoil had managed to drain the battery and sound the alarm.<\/p>\n

Aaron couldn’t get a response from jump leads on the boot-mounted battery. The local mechanic managed to find the positive terminal under the bonnet, but even he needed an extra battery to boost his Ford Transit to get the Alfa to turn over\u00a0<\/p>\n

Good news: the Alfa lived. Bad news: it was stuck in limp home mode, with only around 150bhp. Aaron battled through, and once the car was back into England, it cleared its error codes and allowed normal driving again.<\/p>\n

My theory? The Alfa hates Wales. Perhaps it’s a huge rugby fan and wanted to hammer home the 24-21 win for Italy that resulted in Wales first Six Nations wooden spoon in 21 years. Perhaps it’s just bad luck. Or perhaps you actually can let a touch of national stereotypes cloud your judgements on cars.<\/p>\n

Update 3\u00a0<\/h2>\n

I bet you own, or have owned, a classic car. Or a weekend car. Or something along those lines. I certainly have. An NA MX-5. Eventually life got in the way and I got rid of it when in one year it accrued a measly 200 miles.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n

As I approach my mid-thirties, I seemingly have even less time to enjoy cars. But a few weeks ago something marvelous happened. Plans that had been in the diary for months disappeared. Whoosh. Just gone. A whole Saturday deleted with just a day\u2019s notice.\u00a0<\/p>\n

In my mind\u2019s to-do list there is a post-it note fluttering around, its adhesive quality slowly being lost over the two years since I moved into my flat and placed it there. It reads \u201cfind a good driving road near me\u201d. And today, I am finally gripping that day-glow yellow square between my thumb and forefinger and putting it in the bin. Of my mind.<\/p>\n

But I couldn\u2019t just get into the Etna Red Quad, thumb the big starter switch, twist the drive selector to Dynamic and press the soft suspension button that is nestled between said twister. No, I, like any Millenial, had to consult Google first.<\/p>\n

I point blank refuse to tackle any task, no matter how small, inconsequential or seemingly easy before Googling it. Eventually after wading through AI drivel, I stumbled across a very old post that mentioned some specific parts of Essex, close-ish to where I live, so I headed there.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/p>\n

It was a crisp, clear, brown-hued Autumn day and the Alfa really felt alive once I got it out of the 30mph zones. When I got to some A and B roads, with the engine warmed up and exhaust valves open and growling, I really began to feel where the Quad is at its best. It\u2019s all pretty mechanical and visceral too; not dissimilar from a classic if you can get the lane assist and stop-start bypassed in your mind.<\/p>\n

The Autumn leaves and mud elicited a few scrabbles for traction, a true hallmark of going for a drive in my eyes, and the Quad\u2019s steering ebbed and flowed, tightened and loosened up so naturally I felt as comfortable ringing its neck as if I was driving something much less powerful and spiky.<\/p>\n

It would be remiss of me to not mention the state of the UK roads here. Turning right at a countryside T junction allowed me to test the Alfa\u2019s quick steering. Two and a quarter turns between locks gives me enough manoeuvrability to pick a course, avoiding the worst of the massive holes I encountered. And at speed, the Alfa, with the soft spring button engaged, is masterful here, almost skipping over these defects.<\/p>\n

My colleague Matt Saunders, as ever, was correct when he wrote \u201cOn a good smooth surface the Giulia is fine in its firmest mode, while on broken surfaces it\u2019s ideally planted in its softer mode.\u201d In the UK of course,\u00a0 a good smooth surface is increasingly hard to find.Fittingly, on the way home a chap in a Black Quad flashed his lights at me and waved, and I returned the favour. Like a classic car owner. But unlike with a classic, I don\u2019t need to store the Alfa in a garage. I still haven\u2019t quite found a brilliant driving route near me. Which means that post-it note remains flapping around in my mind, but I guess it also gives me another excuse to go out and find a great driving road.<\/p>\n

The addendum to this is that since this brilliant drive things have not been so rosy for the Alfa. The Monday after the cancelled Saturday I drove it into our Twickenham office so that I could lend it to my learned colleague Kris Culmer. Being in standstill traffic on the North Circular pre 0700 was pretty hard to stomach, but not much could bring my spirits down after the weekend I\u2019d had. Until a message from Kris arrived that evening. The Alfa had broken down within 2 miles of the office. A parking brake fault, complete with a new error message. Oh Alfa.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/p>\n

Final update\u00a0<\/h2>\n

Right, then, strap in: we have a lot to get through here. I’ll address the question of whether I’d have a QV over something more German shortly. First I just wanted to offer a brief\u00a0chronology of the car’s\u00a0time at Autocar.<\/p>\n

It arrived. It was summer. The sun was shining and the V6 was singing. Life was good. Before long, deputy road test editor Richard Lane needed the car to be in Wales for a feature that also involved an Alpine A110<\/a> and a Maserati MC20<\/a> and I obliged happily.<\/p>\n

The drive west to Wales was magnificent – especially when I dipped off the motorway and onto\u00a0the A5. The direct, tight steering and supple suspension made mincemeat of the topography. But\u00a0almost as soon as I entered Wales, I got the first warning lights. Yes, plural. I got distracted by the scenery, and the next time I looked down the warning lights had gone.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/p>\n

I drove home, without issue. Shortly after, I lent the Quadrifoglio to staff writer Jack Warrick for two weeks while I was on holiday. Jack became miffed with the fuel economy and handed the keys to colleague Aaron McKay, who works on Autocar’s sibling publication Classic & Sports Car.<\/p>\n

During Aaron’s time with the car, he drove it to Wales, where it again began misbehaving. They were the same issues I’d experienced. Except… Aaron returned to it one night to discover it had a completely flat battery. D’oh. But it was nothing an AA van couldn’t fix. Aaron drove the car from Wales to London and deposited it on our carpark’s naughty step.<\/p>\n

All the while, it transpired that the Alfa’s plates had been cloned and some wrong un had been milling around Shoreditch, London, in a pre-facelift Giulia Quadrifoglio collecting parking fines and accruing congestion charge tickets.<\/p>\n

I returned from a relaxing trip away to find all these problems, but even if it eroded my holiday calm I couldn’t be cross at the Alfa.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/p>\n

Not least because the hard reset had got rid of the various warning lights. Fast forward a month or so and the Alfa had been acting impeccably, so I lent it to chief sub editor Kris Culmer.\u00a0But it developed a handbrake fault immediately. That was just a week or so before but was due to go back to Alfa.<\/p>\n

But this is Alfa ownership. It\u00a0was never going to be like having a Toyota Corolla<\/a>. And I truly love it for that. The Quadrifoglio is a supremely special thing. We’re in a bit of a last hurrah for the combustion engine and I just know that classic car magazines in 30 years will have special editions dedicated to this car, with pages\u00a0specifically on the engine.<\/p>\n

The ride has a fluency that no other super-saloon matches, and after more than 2500 miles this was the thing that for me simply never wore off. A good chunk of those miles were completed on the motorway, and if you discount the mpg, it was extremely good at that.<\/p>\n

After every long journey, I couldn’t help getting out, looking at the car’s mean 19in alloys, low ride height and carbon fibre spoiler and just thinking: it should not be this comfortable; it shouldn’t be this easy for a 191mph car to do what it just did. Sure, the fuel economy (23.5mpg test average) is hard to overlook.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/p>\n

And truth be told, it was a bit of a pain for me. But frankly, the typical Giulia Quadrifoglio owner will be better off than I am, and a typical Alfa Romeo owner would realistically be willing to make allowances anyway.<\/p>\n

The Alfa isn’t exactly the rational choice, when BMW M3s<\/a> and Mercedes-AMG C63s<\/a> are still brilliant while being a bit more reliable and cheaper to run.<\/p>\n

But I’ll put it this way. How often do you see an M or AMG being driven poorly? Or see an M or AMG with ghastly modifications? Or see an M or AMG owner and just think: “I wouldn’t like to go round theirs\u00a0for dinner because they will serve something unpalatable and have crap wine?” Whereas with a Quadrifoglio owner, I just don’t think those things.<\/p>\n

So then. The Quad. I had very high expectations and it was as brilliant, as thrilling and as perilous as I thought the experience might be. Only, slightly more comfortable and slightly more expensive.<\/p>\n

Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio specification<\/h2>\n

Prices: List price new<\/strong> \u00a378,195\u00a0List price now<\/strong> \u00a380,545\u00a0Price as tested<\/strong> \u00a382,245\u00a0Options:\u00a0<\/strong>Etna Red paint \u00a32500, Driver Assistance Package \u00a31100, red brake calipers \u00a3450<\/p>\n

Fuel consumption and range: Claimed economy<\/strong>\u00a028.0mpg Fuel tank<\/strong>\u00a058\u00a0litres Test average<\/strong>\u00a023.5mpg Test best<\/strong>\u00a033.3mpg Test worst<\/strong>\u00a018.8mpg Real-world range<\/strong> 300 miles<\/p>\n

Tech highlights: 0-62mph<\/strong>\u00a03.9sec Top speed <\/strong>191mph Engine<\/strong> V6, 2891cc, twin-turbocharged, petrol Max power<\/strong>\u00a0513bhp at 6500rpm Max torque<\/strong> 443lb ft at 2500-5000rpm Transmission<\/strong> 8spd automatic, RWD\u00a0Boot capacity<\/strong>\u00a0480\u00a0litres Wheels<\/strong> 19in, alloy\u00a0Tyres<\/strong> 245\/35 R19 (f), 285\/30 R19 (r), Pirelli P Zero Kerb weight<\/strong>\u00a01660kg<\/p>\n

Service and running costs: Contract hire rate<\/strong> \u00a3901.45\u00a0CO2<\/strong>\u00a0229g\/km Service costs<\/strong> None\u00a0Other costs<\/strong> None\u00a0Fuel costs<\/strong> \u00a3736.19\u00a0Running costs inc fuel<\/strong> \u00a3736.19\u00a0Cost per mile<\/strong> 28 pence Faults<\/strong> Error messages, warning lights, dead battery, handbrake fault<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n

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